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I am shocked at the fact that no one has been realizing how serious of an issue this is that someone had to leave based on not feeling safe within the community, and that no one brought the issue up after he left. Even though it was an election season and criticism and debating was quite common, some of the things said towards Auto were not acceptable by any standards. There are many instances of ad hominem attacks against him as a person rather than the policy that he was drafting. These ad hominem attacks aimed to paint him as a liar and manipulator who tricks members of other opposition parties into serving his own gain. By far the worst that happened was when he was mocked for the way he typed and edited his messages, with someone joking “Guys lets have a message editing challenge! Most edited messages over the whole campaign wins!!”, even though it was clearly intended for people to edit old messages instead of spamming new ones to keep the chat clean. It was one of the most disgraceful things that could have happened to anyone and if this was in a school this would be considered cyberbullying. I firmly asked the people who were attacking Auto to reflect on for a minute, and to see what they have been doing and to think to themselves if what they were doing was acceptable behaviour, but when they responded all they showed me was that they did not care about how they acted towards others. When Auto was called a liar, I asked them if how would they feel to be called a liar, and one responded “I would be honored to be called a lair as lairs are pretty cool”, and when I told the person who made the editing joke that it wasn’t funny and insulting he said “oh noes HGP doesn’t like les jokes”. Calling someone a liar is not a joke, it is a serious accusation meant to attack the person directly in order to degrade them; so to are the comments made on how Auto edits his messages, but they didn't treat them as serious issues, but as so called harmless jokes that ended up causing some of the greatest emotional harm to not just Auto, but to me as well. Every time I saw a comment that was attacking Auto, I felt as if I was being attacked as well, and eventually it got to the point where we were both crying in a call with each other. I felt the pain he felt, it was as if society thought he was a punching bag, something that could be hit over and over and over again without facing any concequences. Despite the guilt he had of leaving me and the rest of the Wolvhaven community behind, the toxicity on the server was too much for him, and it was only one of many times that he was driven off the server due to toxicity, with one time him contemplating suicide. It is not easy to describe what happened that night, but all I can say is that in that conversation flowed a river of tears. After the emotional conversation, Auto resigned from the HGP and left Wolvhaven indefinitley. To me this was a big deal as I had just lost a friend from the server where I met him, and the fact that the server had lost a player who contributed a lot to its development. What I was shocked to see was that there was no mass outrage over what happened, and what was even worse was the so called thank you letter from those who attacked Auto. It said <blockquote>“Thank you for your long service as a politician. We respect the difficult decision you had to make, and not many people are able to value their personal, in real life needs over a video game. While our parties may not have agreed on everything, it was clear that you had a passion and drive to work for the benefit of all WolvHaveners. Once again, thank you for your service and good luck on future endeavors”</blockquote>I thought this thank you letter for everything that Auto had done was completely insincere even more of an insult to him than it was a complement. Auto did not leave because of real life issues out of his control, he left because the community was not a safe place for him to be in anymore out of fear of harassment. They stated that he had a drive to work for the benefit of all Wolvhaveners while constantly questioning him during the debate about his activity, and that if he was really dedicated to the server. There was no apology in the letter expressing how they treated him was wrong, all they did was say “we are ‘sorry’ to be seeing you leave” in order to cover up what they really did; harass Auto to the point where he left the server just because he disagreed with them. They harassed him so much that a few days later Auto said that he was less stressed and happier overall after he left in a conversation with me.

To all those reading, you might ask why didn’t I speak up about this issue before, well that's because I was afraid, afraid of that I was to become the next target of harassment. All of us in the HGP were afraid, too afraid to tell the truth. One person did actually say what happened was wrong. He said “... Congrats… you’ve bullied Auto into quitting”. We unfortunately had to lie that he did not quit because of bullying in fear that we would cause another fight. We all were stressed out and tired from campaigning and didn’t want another one. During the live covering of the results we tried to bring up the issue of Auto’s departure from the server after Newsnet didn’t bring it up on their own, but that never caught wind.

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	I am shocked at the fact that no one has been realizing how serious of an issue this is that someone had to leave based on not feeling safe within the community, and that no one brought the issue up after he left. Even though it was an election season and criticism and debating was quite common, some of the things said towards Auto were not acceptable by any standards. There are many instances of ad hominem attacks against him as a person rather than the policy that he was drafting. These ad hominem attacks aimed to paint him as a liar and manipulator who tricks members of other opposition parties into serving his own gain. By far the worst that happened was when he was mocked for the way he typed and edited his messages, with someone joking “Guys lets have a message editing challenge! Most edited messages over the whole campaign wins!!”, even though it was clearly intended for people to edit old messages instead of spamming new ones to keep the chat clean. It was one of the most disgraceful things that could have happened to anyone and if this was in a school this would be considered cyberbullying. I firmly asked the people who were attacking Auto to reflect on for a minute, and to see what they have been doing and to think to themselves if what they were doing was acceptable behaviour, but when they responded all they showed me was that they did not care about how they acted towards others. When Auto was called a liar, I asked them if how would they feel to be called a liar, and one responded “I would be honored to be called a lair as lairs are pretty cool”, and when I told the person who made the editing joke that it wasn’t funny and insulting he said “oh noes HGP doesn’t like les jokes”. Calling someone a liar is not a joke, it is a serious accusation meant to attack the person directly in order to degrade them; so to are the comments made on how Auto edits his messages, but they didn't treat them as serious issues, but as so called harmless jokes that ended up causing some of the greatest emotional harm to not just Auto, but to me as well. Every time I saw a comment that was attacking Auto, I felt as if I was being attacked as well, and eventually it got to the point where we were both crying in a call with each other. I felt the pain he felt, it was as if society thought he was a punching bag, something that could be hit over and over and over again without facing any concequences. Despite the guilt he had of leaving me and the rest of the Wolvhaven community behind, the toxicity on the server was too much for him, and it was only one of many times that he was driven off the server due to toxicity, with one time him contemplating suicide. It is not easy to describe what happened that night, but all I can say is that in that conversation flowed a river of tears. After the emotional conversation, Auto resigned from the HGP and left Wolvhaven indefinitley. To me this was a big deal as I had just lost a friend from the server where I met him, and the fact that the server had lost a player who contributed a lot to its development. What I was shocked to see was that there was no mass outrage over what happened, and what was even worse was the so called thank you letter from those who attacked Auto. It said <blockquote>“Thank you for your long service as a politician. We respect the difficult decision you had to make, and not many people are able to value their personal, in real life needs over a video game. While our parties may not have agreed on everything, it was clear that you had a passion and drive to work for the benefit of all WolvHaveners. Once again, thank you for your service and good luck on future endeavors”</blockquote>I thought this thank you letter for everything that Auto had done was completely insincere even more of an insult to him than it was a complement. Auto did not leave because of real life issues out of his control, he left because the community was not a safe place for him to be in anymore out of fear of harassment. They stated that he had a drive to work for the benefit of all Wolvhaveners while constantly questioning him during the debate about his activity, and that if he was really dedicated to the server. There was no apology in the letter expressing how they treated him was wrong, all they did was say “we are ‘sorry’ to be seeing you leave” in order to cover up what they really did; harass Auto to the point where he left the server just because he disagreed with them. They harassed him so much that a few days later Auto said that he was less stressed and happier overall after he left in a conversation with me.		I am shocked at the fact that no one has been realizing how serious of an issue this is that someone had to leave based on not feeling safe within the community, and that no one brought the issue up after he left. Even though it was an election season and criticism and debating was quite common, some of the things said towards Auto were not acceptable by any standards. There are many instances of ad hominem attacks against him as a person rather than the policy that he was drafting. These ad hominem attacks aimed to paint him as a liar and manipulator who tricks members of other opposition parties into serving his own gain. By far the worst that happened was when he was mocked for the way he typed and edited his messages, with someone joking “Guys lets have a message editing challenge! Most edited messages over the whole campaign wins!!”, even though it was clearly intended for people to edit old messages instead of spamming new ones to keep the chat clean. It was one of the most disgraceful things that could have happened to anyone and if this was in a school this would be considered cyberbullying. I firmly asked the people who were attacking Auto to reflect on for a minute, and to see what they have been doing and to think to themselves if what they were doing was acceptable behaviour, but when they responded all they showed me was that they did not care about how they acted towards others. When Auto was called a liar, I asked them if how would they feel to be called a liar, and one responded “I would be honored to be called a lair as lairs are pretty cool”, and when I told the person who made the editing joke that it wasn’t funny and insulting he said “oh noes HGP doesn’t like les jokes”. Calling someone a liar is not a joke, it is a serious accusation meant to attack the person directly in order to degrade them; so to are the comments made on how Auto edits his messages, but they didn't treat them as serious issues, but as so called harmless jokes that ended up causing some of the greatest emotional harm to not just Auto, but to me as well. Every time I saw a comment that was attacking Auto, I felt as if I was being attacked as well, and eventually it got to the point where we were both crying in a call with each other. I felt the pain he felt, it was as if society thought he was a punching bag, something that could be hit over and over and over again without facing any concequences. Despite the guilt he had of leaving me and the rest of the Wolvhaven community behind, the toxicity on the server was too much for him, and it was only one of many times that he was driven off the server due to toxicity, with one time him contemplating suicide. It is not easy to describe what happened that night, but all I can say is that in that conversation flowed a river of tears. After the emotional conversation, Auto resigned from the HGP and left Wolvhaven indefinitley. To me this was a big deal as I had just lost a friend from the server where I met him, and the fact that the server had lost a player who contributed a lot to its development. What I was shocked to see was that there was no mass outrage over what happened, and what was even worse was the so called thank you letter from those who attacked Auto. It said <blockquote>“Thank you for your long service as a politician. We respect the difficult decision you had to make, and not many people are able to value their personal, in real life needs over a video game. While our parties may not have agreed on everything, it was clear that you had a passion and drive to work for the benefit of all WolvHaveners. Once again, thank you for your service and good luck on future endeavors”</blockquote>I thought this thank you letter for everything that Auto had done was completely insincere even more of an insult to him than it was a complement. Auto did not leave because of real life issues out of his control, he left because the community was not a safe place for him to be in anymore out of fear of harassment. They stated that he had a drive to work for the benefit of all Wolvhaveners while constantly questioning him during the debate about his activity, and that if he was really dedicated to the server. There was no apology in the letter expressing how they treated him was wrong, all they did was say “we are ‘sorry’ to be seeing you leave” in order to cover up what they really did; harass Auto to the point where he left the server just because he disagreed with them. They harassed him so much that a few days later Auto said that he was less stressed and happier overall after he left in a conversation with me.


	To all those reading, you might ask why didn’t I speak up about this issue before, well that's because I was afraid, afraid of that I was to become the next target of harassment. All of us in the HGP were afraid, too afraid to tell the truth. One person did actually say what happened was wrong. He said “... Congrats… you’ve bullied Auto into quitting”. We unfortunately had to lie that he did not quit because of bullying in fear that we would cause another fight. We all were stressed out and tired from campaigning and didn’t want another one. During the live covering of the results we tried to bring up the issue of Auto’s departure from the server after Newsnet didn’t bring it up on their own, but that never caught wind.		To all those reading, you might ask why didn’t I speak up about this issue before, well that's because I was afraid, afraid of that I was to become the next target of harassment. All of us in the HGP were afraid, too afraid to tell the truth. One person did actually say what happened was wrong. He said “... Congrats… you’ve bullied Auto into quitting”. We unfortunately had to lie that he did not quit because of bullying in fear that we would cause another fight. We all were stressed out and tired from campaigning and didn’t want another one. During the live covering of the results we tried to bring up the issue of Auto’s departure from the server after Newsnet didn’t bring it up on their own, but that never caught wind.